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cup of tea 11:06 Sun May 3
Sleep Deprivation
Any sufferers? Obviously WHO is the best place to ask as I know we have an abundance of experts here!

Since this Covid stuff started I've been WFH and basically had a lot more time on my hands to stay up late, eat more and stupidly exercise less so getting less air in to my lungs.

For the last week or so I've had terrible sleep as in bed at around 11pm up at around 3am back to sleep up around 6am back to sleep and then up as Kate as 11am or later. As well as these sleep patterns I've had a lot of flashbacks to school days (some good some bad dreams and nightmares)

I'm waking up after this disturbed sleep constantly yawning and aching all over and feeling like I have the flu' but this passes after a few hours once I do a few things around the house but then repeats not every night but at least every couple of nights.

I have suffered in the past with anxiety and depression badly but it's now more under control but obviously something is triggering this (I'm up now but in bed)

I await the cunting (expected and sometimes funny) amongst some (around 2%) serious answers and suggestions.

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happygilmore 11:08 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Eat and drink less shit. Exercise more. Fixed

only1billybonds 11:25 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Tell us more about this KATE sort?

A link would be handy as well. :-)

mashed in maryland 11:27 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Do shit loads of burpees every morning. Like aim for about 100-200, even if in sets of 10 or less.

Wake up about an hour earlier than normal to do so

Used to REALLY struggle with sleep deprivation and being knackered all day especially when being more sedentary than usual, and the only proven way i found to sort it was early morning exercise.

Beats any medication. And the only side effect is you get a bit fitter.

But also try zinc tablets. One with last meal of the day. Doesn't knock you out but found makes you sleep a bit deeper.

mashed in maryland 11:33 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Also try intermittent fasting.

There's literally near infinite info online about it, too much to explain here.

cup of tea 11:37 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Cheers. Do a lot of walking normally but since this started not much so gonna do a few miles this morning and also try keeping more hydrated.

Queens Fish Bar 11:44 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Had similar and saw my Dr.

She said double drop Nytol.

I was so slow and weary the next day but slept like a log and subsequent nights just had one.

After 4 nights I'd broken the pattern and stopped taking them.

Food, drink, exercise and a good sleeping environment are important too.

Fortunes Hiding 11:44 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Don’t drink a Cup Of Tea before bed.

Caffeine and that....

Mike Oxsaw 11:45 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
You need to discipline yourself and manage your time as if you were still commuting or going to work - certainly in the morning.

Morning exercise is a good idea but you'll find, at first, it simply knackers you again and you need a couple more hours kip - keep at it as it could take 2 or 3 weeks for your body clock to get back into sync.

At the same time, try to not allow work to regularly spread into what was previously your personal time. If that os not so easy for you, try one of those clocks used in speed chess to flip between "time working" and "time not working"; at least that will give you a personal view of how your time is being used at home.

Note that speed chess clock information breaks down when accessing WHO from the office as "time working" has no meaning..

Fortunes Hiding 11:45 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
read some posts by the blueeyed poster.


That should send you to sleep.

Guy Gibsons Dog 11:52 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
If you can get through this movie on Netflix you have a serious issue, I have tried abuot 5 times and always fall asleep within 10 minutes

https://www.netflix.com/watch/81028348?trackId=250311567&tctx=24%2C0%2C20623dd1-74a6-48b9-b71a-6cd11570677c-78565105%2C6ca0ee27-1735-49f0-802c-f27b355ed794_46256204X10XX1588496363021%2C6ca0ee27-1735-49f0-802c-f27b355ed794_ROOT

Nagel 11:57 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Are you looking at a laptop, tablet or other VDU more than usual? If so, might be worth cutting down on that, especially in the evening, as it can disrupt sleep patterns.

Coffee 11:59 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
mashed in maryland 11:27 Sun May 3

I didn't know about the zinc thing, but it may explain something. The wife has got us on a high vitamin/mineral regime, which includes some syrupy concoction with zinc in the name at night. An hour or two later and I'm zonked. Never thought the zinc could be responsible. Thanks!

bruuuno 12:08 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
I smoke a joint before bed and sleep 6 or 7 hours. If I don’t have a joint I can’t sleep until very late and that’s been the case since I was a baby.

Manuel 12:08 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
I really couldn't give a fuck how my nights sleep goes, if it's good then great, if it's not great tough shit get on with it and hope it's better the next night. All you modern day sterile cunts banging on about diets, exercise, taking pills, blah blah blah. Fuck off.

bruuuno 12:08 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Syrupy concoction eh coffee?

mashed in maryland 12:09 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
Coffee

ZMA tablets are sold by almost all supplement/health food shops etc as a recovery thing but i think zinc is the active "sleep" ingredient.

There's a lot of it in steak and seafood. Combined with morning gym and intermittent fasting (a big meaty meal in the evening) my "insomnia" pretty much vanished. Might not work for everyone but worked for me and the internet is full of similar stories.

Really worth giving stuff like this a go before trying to source zopiclon or valium etc and getting addicted like most people seem to do.

Coffee 12:20 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
bruuuno 12:08 Sun May 3

Am I missing something? If that was an inadvertent reference to something druggy, I don't do them. (But have often wondered what LSD would be like...)

bruuuno 12:28 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
I have a filthy mind coffee, don’t worry

bruuuno 12:29 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
I thought she took a syrupy concoction ^ I’m going back to bed

Coffee 12:33 Sun May 3
Re: Sleep Deprivation
I was thinking I'd learned a new cultural reference. But far more mundane. Fwiw, I've never heard of it described as syrupy. You may be on to something.

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